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	<title>Comments on: The Real Faces Behind Internet Brands</title>
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	<description>Shining Light on Internet Brand&#039;s Disaster</description>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://vbtruth.com/the-real-faces-behind-internet-brands/149/comment-page-1/#comment-1525</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 16:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new story is that IB is blocking current owned licence holders from downloading the product again and or updates unless they agree to the new vb4 licence. Why would anyone who owns a vb3 licence under exclusive UK jurisdiction want to sign away their rights to that licence?  They said they are not forcing anyone to do anything, THEY ARE.  IB has already been reported to the Department of Trading Standards in the UK, they have refused to state who their legal counsel is in the UK, they say they have none, so how do customers with issues surrounding the legality of their actions regarding the vb3 licence resolve disputes, do you think this is legal (Seriously) the vb3 licence is under the exclusive jurisdiction of UK law. They are running scared; they want everyone to convert their licence to a vb4 licence. You must not agree to these terms, you are legally entitled to download security patches if your licence is active without changing over to the vb4 T&amp;C&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new story is that IB is blocking current owned licence holders from downloading the product again and or updates unless they agree to the new vb4 licence. Why would anyone who owns a vb3 licence under exclusive UK jurisdiction want to sign away their rights to that licence?  They said they are not forcing anyone to do anything, THEY ARE.  IB has already been reported to the Department of Trading Standards in the UK, they have refused to state who their legal counsel is in the UK, they say they have none, so how do customers with issues surrounding the legality of their actions regarding the vb3 licence resolve disputes, do you think this is legal (Seriously) the vb3 licence is under the exclusive jurisdiction of UK law. They are running scared; they want everyone to convert their licence to a vb4 licence. You must not agree to these terms, you are legally entitled to download security patches if your licence is active without changing over to the vb4 T&amp;C&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: hotwheels</title>
		<link>http://vbtruth.com/the-real-faces-behind-internet-brands/149/comment-page-1/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>hotwheels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vbulletin.com and internet brands have gone to the dogs. Just because people aren&#039;t talking anymore isn&#039;t because there is nothing new to talk about, it is do to people like you &quot;dave&quot;, who think this garbage they are selling is awesome. I really wish you the best with the software, but i hope you realize you were takin to the bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vbulletin.com and internet brands have gone to the dogs. Just because people aren&#8217;t talking anymore isn&#8217;t because there is nothing new to talk about, it is do to people like you &#8220;dave&#8221;, who think this garbage they are selling is awesome. I really wish you the best with the software, but i hope you realize you were takin to the bank.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://vbtruth.com/the-real-faces-behind-internet-brands/149/comment-page-1/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be interesting if you guys could do an article centered around what the effects of this fiasco have been on vBulletin, but equally, also on Invision and some of the other software solutions.  It seems like Invision has gained a lot of customers and momentum, based on the fact that a number of current and also former vBulletin customers, have either started to experiment or have moved to IP software.  

In business, momentum is a funny thing and it would certainly seem on the surface at least, as if vBulletin for the first time in years, now have momentum going against them, instead of in their favour.  

I think the reality of things is, that the true effect and fallout (if any) of these changes that Internet Brands have made, will be better and more easily measured in a year or two from now when the dust settles.  

-Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be interesting if you guys could do an article centered around what the effects of this fiasco have been on vBulletin, but equally, also on Invision and some of the other software solutions.  It seems like Invision has gained a lot of customers and momentum, based on the fact that a number of current and also former vBulletin customers, have either started to experiment or have moved to IP software.  </p>
<p>In business, momentum is a funny thing and it would certainly seem on the surface at least, as if vBulletin for the first time in years, now have momentum going against them, instead of in their favour.  </p>
<p>I think the reality of things is, that the true effect and fallout (if any) of these changes that Internet Brands have made, will be better and more easily measured in a year or two from now when the dust settles.  </p>
<p>-Chris</p>
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		<title>By: mr-gtb</title>
		<link>http://vbtruth.com/the-real-faces-behind-internet-brands/149/comment-page-1/#comment-513</link>
		<dc:creator>mr-gtb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just been reading some of the comments made about the new vBulletin 4 Beta 5 version, that Ray Morgan said was planned to be an RC release at first.

In short, very disappointing! Same bugs being reported not fixed. With many people saying they&#039;re unhappy about it all. Some even refusing to install Beta 5 because of it.

I think if they had of made this an RC release, many would have been up in arms about the amount of bugs still present in an RC version close to Gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just been reading some of the comments made about the new vBulletin 4 Beta 5 version, that Ray Morgan said was planned to be an RC release at first.</p>
<p>In short, very disappointing! Same bugs being reported not fixed. With many people saying they&#8217;re unhappy about it all. Some even refusing to install Beta 5 because of it.</p>
<p>I think if they had of made this an RC release, many would have been up in arms about the amount of bugs still present in an RC version close to Gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Veritas</title>
		<link>http://vbtruth.com/the-real-faces-behind-internet-brands/149/comment-page-1/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>Veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not so much that there&#039;s slim pickings for new content and stories, but rather, we&#039;re trying to avoid sound like a group of whining, immature, never able to please or satisfy customers. It&#039;s a very fine line we&#039;re trying to walk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not so much that there&#8217;s slim pickings for new content and stories, but rather, we&#8217;re trying to avoid sound like a group of whining, immature, never able to please or satisfy customers. It&#8217;s a very fine line we&#8217;re trying to walk.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://vbtruth.com/the-real-faces-behind-internet-brands/149/comment-page-1/#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must be getting slim pickings for new content and stories.

Just wait a few more weeks though, another story will break after promises aren&#039;t meant for vB4 to be gold :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be getting slim pickings for new content and stories.</p>
<p>Just wait a few more weeks though, another story will break after promises aren&#8217;t meant for vB4 to be gold <img src='http://vbtruth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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