Honestly it’s a flop. I don’t take software as being ground work for future releases, or as a building block, it is what it is right now since they slapped the vB 4 Gold Tag on it, and in many aspects it’s a complete failure (more failures, than successes).

The styling is one of the few positive changes, not the default style though (by any stretch of the imagination), but the CSS driven layout thats easily customizable and easier to obtain advanced looks and stlying than in previous vBulletin versions. However thats as far as it goes as positives for the styling.

The variables they’re using and how it’s coded is hugely inefficent. The graphics are like something that was designed in a matter of minutes and exported on the lowest possible settings, (While still not being properly optimized).

The CSS and HTML isn’t valid, and they don’t care, there is virtually no support for older browsers other than “We’re working on it” which by the time they’ve figured it out will probably warrant another point release.

The SEO (if you can call it that) is a travesty to even get that label. The friendly URL’s are hideous, and while they maybe human readable, they are far, far from being good at search engine optimized.

They’ve released 4.0, and since then over a thousand new bugs have been introduced, and more continue getting reported daily. Many of which they have no fix for, or are labeling for a maintainence release like 4.0.1 or 4.0.2, one of those probably should have been the gold version.

Honestly, vB 4 is that train wreck a former developer mentioned. The company behind vBulletin isn’t there for any other reason than to milk the cash cow, and trust me soon as they milk it dry they’ll leave thousands out in the cold. Just look at how they’ve ran the majority of their communities into the ground, many of which would be considered to be inactive.
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Very well said indeed and I agree with everything you’ve said. I do think looking back at how I used to feel about vBulletin before, that it’s very sad really how much both mine and other peoples views have now changed about them.

A day never used to go by that I wasn’t on the site posted stuff, keeping involved with what was happening there. Now I hadrly ever go there at all, and have lost total interest in the forum, software, and company.

All a bit sad to be honest. But what you said above sums-up my same feelings.

The styling is one of the few positive changes, not the default style though (by any stretch of the imagination), but the CSS driven layout thats easily customizable and easier to obtain advanced looks and stlying than in previous vBulletin versions. However thats as far as it goes as positives for the styling.

The variables they’re using and how it’s coded is hugely inefficent. The graphics are like something that was designed in a matter of minutes and exported on the lowest possible settings, (While still not being properly optimized).

The CSS and HTML isn’t valid, and they don’t care, there is virtually no support for older browsers other than “We’re working on it” which by the time they’ve figured it out will probably warrant another point release.

The SEO (if you can call it that) is a travesty to even get that label. The friendly URL’s are hideous, and while they maybe human readable, they are far, far from being good at search engine optimized.

They’ve released 4.0, and since then over a thousand new bugs have been introduced, and more continue getting reported daily. Many of which they have no fix for, or are labeling for a maintainence release like 4.0.1 or 4.0.2, one of those probably should have been the gold version.

Honestly, vB 4 is that train wreck a former developer mentioned. The company behind vBulletin isn’t there for any other reason than to milk the cash cow, and trust me soon as they milk it dry they’ll leave thousands out in the cold. Just look at how they’ve ran the majority of their communities into the ground, many of which would be considered to be inactive.