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We’re Back.. but vBulletin’s Not
4 Comments | Posted by Veritas in Commentary, Internet Brands, vBulletin
Chronos and I both decided after vBulletin 4 went gold, we’d disappear into the shadows to do what we do best: observe. What have we observed during our writing absence? Chaos. Confusion. Backlash. Bugs. Customer Disappointment. Frustration. Disappointment.
As an auditor, I’ve been often asked to audit programs and the scope that’s been undertaken. I’ve also sat back occasionally as part of my audit scope to do a complete quality assurance check on software that is intended to be released into production. I find bugs and send them off to QA, but it has been an indicator to me as how a project is being managed, as well as an indicator to determine its current project state. It’s shameful that vBulletin 4 was released in such a state. The application itself shows too many signs of software bugs and glitches floating around all over the place. In my opinion, I would never have approved the release of vBulletin 4.
As I sit back and tinker in a closed beta environment on my localhost server, I could not and would not approve vBulletin 4 being utilized on any of my client’s sites (or my own for that matter). There is simply far too much risk involved in utilizing that’s still quite buggy.
My frustrations with Internet Brands is ever growing. As an auditor, I would likely be writing reports like mad and ensuring senior management is held accountable. However, seeing as I’m not Internet Brands auditor, my own position is one of a customer. As a customer, I am livid, furious, and insanely upset that Internet Brands would sell me a software that is flawed far worse than Windows Vista. More to the point, I’m extremely frustrated that senior management, in particular Bob Brisco, and Joe Rosenblum, have not taken responsibility, nor attempt to signal to stakeholders that this fiasco is being addressed and rectified. Instead, they’ve done their marketing campaign and have decided to hide from the wrath of customers.
I quite understand that software bugs are a part of any development of any application. I also understand it never will be perfect, but I’ve often chimed in my reports to various software companies that bugs need to be managed and controlled properly. If they ever become a significant issue, they can and will hinder functionality. Furthermore, they will cause backlash and create trust issues that will resonate for years to come.
The point of doing bug fixing is to get rid of those bugs. It’s to ensure the software is 99.99% functional for the most common setups.
Looking at some of the bug reports inside the Project Tools, several bugs I’ve found were documented AFTER the release of vBulletin 4 Gold. Some of these bugs are clearly obvious and are simply shameful as a 14 year old would have caught them. It’s appalling.
My question to you Internet Brands: Who did the quality assurance and wrote the quality assurance plan? It is obvious that QA wasn’t performed properly. It’s clear we’re paying more for vBulletin for more bugs, and less functional software.
4 Comments for We’re Back.. but vBulletin’s Not
Matt | February 11, 2010 at 7:38 am
Johny Flodder | February 12, 2010 at 10:20 am
It’s unbelievable how many bugs (over 4000!!!) there are in this so called gold vb 4.xx. How did this product passed the minimum required software quality tests and got released???
I am glad I didn’t jump on the vb4.xxx train, but kept my forums on vb3.8xx. It seems to be a train going directly to hell at full speed.
v7web | February 15, 2010 at 3:24 pm
I am so glad that i didn’t update my own site to vB4, however I did pay for the upgrade to vB4 suite and regret that now.
I have had to turn away paying clients and refund their deposits because I just cannot create a skin for a script that is just not ready to be used.
What a disaster!!
BirdOnTheWire | February 16, 2010 at 5:31 am
I’m not an attorney, but it seems another vulnerability that threatens the progress of this project is, what would happen if (or when) IB got sued (class action?) for fraudulent inducement by soliciting license purchases on a product touted as Gold when clearly it was not and still appears not to be.


Very interesting post on the vb site:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?337946-Don-Where-are-we-now-Where-are-we-heading&p=1923919&viewfull=1#post1923919
“Steve Machol – Posts Per Day 41.07 – This year: 10 posts
Wayne Luke – Posts per day 10.18 – This year: 64 posts
Colin F – Posts per day 8.45 – This year: 29 posts
These are just to name the old top 3, the rest of the staff posts even less or hasn’t even posted here in 2010.
The only active staff members on the forum are Zachery, Trevor(new) & Lynne(new).
Why would you buy ticket support after 30 day’s when you can get the same support on the forums? Maybe IB understood that nobody would do that and withdrew the majority of the forum support and focused on the (paid) ticket support…..”